Hawaii Extended Forecast Discussion NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD 358 AM EDT Thu Sep 29 2022 Valid 00Z Fri Sep 30 2022 - 00Z Fri Oct 07 2022 Trades should be on the lighter side of the spectrum for most of the period, with a dissipating front initially just to the north followed by a stronger front expected to approach/reach the northwestern islands by Sunday, and yet another front which by next Thursday should be more distant to the northwest but still close enough to disrupt the trades somewhat. Thus showers may be from a combination of windward/mountain focus and sea breeze influence. Through early next week moisture should range from below climatology over the Big Island to above normal over the northwestern islands which will be closer to the moisture associated with the first two fronts. GFS/ECMWF runs and the ensemble means all suggest that the northern fringe of enhanced lower latitude moisture could reach the Big Island by next Wednesday or Thursday. Guidance continues to display some spread and trending for the exact southward extent of the Sunday front. Although leading to an unseasonably early frontal arrival, latest trends have been in the direction of the GFS which yesterday was on the southern side of the envelope. Now the GFS/ECMWF/CMC cluster toward the idea of a band of enhanced moisture/rainfall reaching the northwestern islands and the GEFS/ECMWF means have adjusted this way too. However the GFS and to some degree GEFS mean are a little southwest of other guidance for the anchoring system to the northeast, so there are still some reservations with the exact GFS scenario. Later in the period the 00Z ECMWF digs an upstream upper trough farther west than consensus. This results in the ECMWF lifting up the lingering band of frontal moisture more aggressively via southeasterly flow. The GFS/CMC and GEFS/ECens/CMCens means represent the majority pattern by next Wednesday-Thursday. Rausch