Hawaii Extended Forecast Discussion NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD 336 AM EDT Sun Oct 16 2022 Valid 00Z Mon Oct 17 2022 - 00Z Mon Oct 24 2022 Expect a light to moderate trade wind pattern across Hawaii on Sunday, with a relatively dry airmass and a ridge aloft that should only lead to limited shower coverage. Trade winds are likely to lessen for Monday and Tuesday as the typical surface high north of the state shifts away eastward, and land and sea breezes could set up in their absence, with cloudiness and perhaps a few showers in typically favored areas for that pattern. By around midweek and beyond, the pattern should become more active and likely wetter, but also increasingly uncertain. Upper troughing moving across the Pacific is forecast to split energy off into a closed upper low by Wednesday or Thursday to the north of the state (perhaps around 30-35N before drifting southwestward). Model guidance has come into better agreement for a middle ground position of the upper low compared to the past couple of days, but differences still remain. The upper low position will affect the placement of a surface front that is likely to track through at least some of the islands and then perhaps stall and dissipate or retreat northward through the latter part of the week. This front could provide a focus for moisture and increased coverage of showers around Thursday-Friday, but it will take additional time to refine details such as which islands could be the most affected. A moist environment could remain into next weekend with moisture being pulled north from the ITCZ. The ECMWF and EC ensemble have been showing this potential for much above normal available moisture/precipitable water values, with the GFS/GEFS less so, so this is another aspect of the forecast that will be monitored. Tate