Hawaii Extended Forecast Discussion NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD 353 AM EDT Mon Oct 31 2022 Valid 00Z Tue Nov 01 2022 - 00Z Tue Nov 08 2022 Today's models/means still show some variation in trades over the coming seven days. Moderate winds should prevail early this week, and possibly into Wednesday when a weak surface trough may pass just to the north of the islands. Trades will likely become more brisk by Thursday-Friday as a surface high settling over the east-central Pacific reaches its peak strength. Most guidance still shows a weakening and more southeasterly tilt of the trades during the weekend into early next week as the surface high weakens and a front approaches from the west. Similar to the GFS from 24 hours ago, now the 00Z CMC is the one extreme solution with a farther west overall pattern and greater persistence of trades. Even among the other models and individual ensemble members, there is a rapid increase of spread for specifics of the supporting upper trough by Sunday-Monday. As of Monday the 00Z ECMWF and 18Z GFS are the deepest while the 00Z GFS is on the weak side. This spread lowers confidence in exactly how close to the western islands the front reaches. Generally windward/mountain-focused showers should be lightest during the first part of the week as guidance maintains below average precipitable water values over most of the state, except for the Big Island at times. Moisture should increase from the latter half of the week onward. Overall the GFS depicts somewhat greater moisture than the ECMWF with the ensemble means supporting their respective models in relative terms, favoring a compromise at this time. Also an upper level weakness should develop over the area as a strong ridge prevails to the north, but with low confidence for existence/details of any embedded weak lows. The combination of moisture and upper level evolution should lead to higher trends for rainfall amounts. By the weekend the rainfall focus could shift more to southeast-facing terrain, and possibly other locations, given the lighter/southeasterly trends for winds. The approaching upper trough/surface front could start to pull additional moisture from the south early next week. However the magnitude of this moisture increase is very uncertain given the widening spread for upper trough details. Rausch