Hawaii Extended Forecast Discussion NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD 248 AM EST Thu Dec 01 2022 Valid 00Z Fri Dec 02 2022 - 00Z Fri Dec 09 2022 The models and ensembles remain agreeable and consistent for the expected pattern through Sunday. With some fluctuations, moisture should generally be lower than earlier this week as upper ridging moves overhead. Initial northerly winds will trend toward more typical easterly trades by early Friday, supporting windward/mountain focused showers through at least Sunday. Then from Monday onward the models and individual ensemble members still diverge considerably for the evolution of a sharpening upper trough that reaches north/west of the state by Monday, with upper level differences leading to various possibilities for the surface pattern and moisture/precipitation distribution. At least for now there is some increased clustering toward an upper low (or even two in the case of the 00Z GFS) closing off to the north or west of the state, generally closer to yesterday's ECMWF scenario. The majority of 00Z CMCens/12Z ECens members favor that broad axis while some 00Z GEFS members have the upper low/trough progressing farther eastward to the north of the state. Even with a little more clustering in a broad sense versus yesterday, surface differences are still significant depending on exact location of the upper low. These range from a surface front/trough lingering over the islands if the upper low is to the north (00Z CMC) to having the front stall west of the islands if the upper low is more to the west. The latter option is in the majority, represented by the 00Z GFS/ECMWF and 00Z CMCens/12Z ECens means. This would lead to a period of southeasterly winds with increasing moisture, while heaviest rainfall associated with the stalled front may get close to the western islands for a time. Rausch