Hawaii Extended Forecast Discussion NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD 244 AM EST Fri Jan 13 2023 Valid 00Z Sat Jan 14 2023 - 00Z Sat Jan 21 2023 Initially dry conditions should trend somewhat wetter with time, but with some day-to-day variability plus greater uncertainty after midweek in light of significant guidance differences for a second front approaching the area. Upper ridging will prevail over the region into early next week though trade flow (which could be light enough to allow for some land/sea influence on showers) should bring a gradual increase of moisture, yielding precipitable water values closer to climatology by around next Tuesday or so. Also by that time, a wavy front to the northwest of the state may reach its closest point to the islands and keep trade flow weak. Guidance differences become more pronounced during the latter half of the week as upstream shortwave energy further erodes the upper ridge over the area. The precise amplitude of this energy makes a difference regarding whether a second front extends into the islands, with an associated increase of rainfall over most of the area, or stays just to the northwest which would likewise keep the best rainfall chances over the northwestern islands--if even that far east. 00Z/18Z GFS runs and most 00Z GEFS members show lower upper heights versus nearly all of the 00Z CMCens/12Z ECens members as well as the 00Z CMC/ECMWF. Based on this distribution of guidance, would at least favor keeping the front and its moisture somewhat farther west than the GFS/GEFS. As the 12Z ECMWF mean holds the front farthest west (with highest upper heights), the 00Z ECMWF/CMC/CMC mean seem to provide the best intermediate starting point given the typical uncertainty for forecasts at that time frame. Rausch