Hawaii Extended Forecast Discussion NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD 259 AM EST Sun Feb 12 2023 Valid 00Z Mon Feb 13 2023 - 00Z Mon Feb 20 2023 Models and ensembles continue to advertise a trend toward a much wetter pattern over the next week. The most agreeable and consistent theme in the forecast is that an upper low initially just east of the state should wobble westward to a position over the islands by Tuesday-Wednesday, and then jump to the west-southwest later in the week as an upper ridge passes by to the north. The upper low should still be to the southwest or south of the main islands through next weekend. Meanwhile the operational models (with less-defined support from the means) agree that a surface trough with possible embedded wave should cross the islands from east to west around Wednesday, and possibly into Thursday per the slower 00Z GFS/CMC. Not surprisingly the ensemble means tilt toward the timing of their parent model but the GEFS mean does hint at slightly faster timing than the GFS/CMC. Thus would favor a compromise timing for now. Details of any embedded surface low have low predictability due to the small scale and dependence on shortwave impulses that are difficult to resolve multiple days out in time. This surface feature would alter the rainfall pattern relative to the windward/mountain-focused regime supported by brisk to strong trades between now and Monday (possibly into Tuesday). Once the upper low repositions itself after midweek, most guidance maintains relative agreement into Friday with a pronounced surge of moisture arriving from the southeast and a corresponding increase of heavy rainfall potential late in the week. At this point the GFS already starts diverging from other guidance and continues to do so the rest of the period as it brings multiple compact surface lows northward and diverts the axis of greatest moisture northward as well. This appears to be at least partially due to the model being deeper than the others with the upper low. The GEFS mean tilts in the GFS direction regarding the moisture axis but at least depicts low level flow closer to the east-southeast trades seen in other guidance after the midweek surface trough passes through. On the other hand, the 00Z ECMWF has made a somewhat westward adjustment with the moisture axis during next weekend with the 12Z ECMWF mean partially leaning that way as well. The CMC takes a bit longer for this westward shift to occur. Overall prefer an average of non-GFS guidance from late week through the weekend. This would lead to some heavy rainfall potential possibly extending into at least the first part of the weekend, with strong high pressure to the north-northeast promoting east-southeasterly trades and primarily windward emphasis for rainfall, and then the axis of greatest moisture possibly drifting a bit west by Sunday. Rausch