Hawaii Extended Forecast Discussion NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD 300 AM EST Wed Feb 15 2023 Valid 00Z Thu Feb 16 2023 - 00Z Thu Feb 23 2023 ...Heavy rainfall/flooding threat especially during Thursday-Saturday within a longer term wet pattern... In principle, guidance is agreeable and consistent with a pattern evolution that will favor an extended period of enhanced rainfall potential from late this week into next week, with the best consensus for heaviest rain and flooding threat during Thursday-Saturday. From the weekend into next week there are still some differences regarding exact position of the southeast-northwest band of supporting moisture. These differences are very important for resolving details of the precipitation forecast at specific locations but are too small to have meaningful predictability several days out in time. Expect the upper low initially tracking just north of the state to curl around to the west by Thursday, while a surface trough (with a low to the north) passes through the state from east to west and switches winds from northerly to southeasterly. Then guidance has the upper low drifting south-southeast after Thursday, with the deep-layer southeasterly flow bringing up abundant moisture into the islands. Within the Thursday-Saturday period that has the best signal for heaviest rainfall, GFS/ECMWF runs in particular highlight Friday as the day when extremely heavy rain may fall over southeastward-facing terrain of the Big Island. Through the weekend the GFS continues to show more tendency than other guidance for spurious surface waves to track northwestward over or near the islands, while by Sunday the GFS/GEFS mean are weaker than the ECMWF/CMC and their means for the upper ridge that could briefly build in from the northeast. During the first half of next week the guidance is maintaining the recent theme of a shortwave trough approaching from the west and possibly pulling off another upper low, which would keep the persistent moisture axis within southeasterly flow over or at least very close to the main islands into the middle of next week. The 00Z GEFS/CMC means and 12Z ECMWF mean are all very similar aloft through next Wednesday. At least in a broad sense the 00Z and more so 18Z GFS are more similar to the means aloft late in the forecast, versus the 00Z ECMWF/CMC that use some of the trough energy to close off a compact upper low well to the north and have a weaker upper ridge to the northeast of the state. In this time frame, most guidance suggests that the moisture axis may shift a little southwest of its Thursday-Saturday position but generally within a range of staying over the islands or being a little southwest (generally seen in ECMWF/ECMWF mean runs) such that the western islands would still be in/near the highest precipitable water values. It will take additional time to resolve differences this small in scale. Either way, some degree of heavy rain potential will continue into the middle of next week for some areas. Rausch