Hawaii Extended Forecast Discussion NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD 352 AM EDT Mon Oct 16 2023 Valid 00Z Tue Oct 17 2023 - 00Z Tue Oct 24 2023 Continue to expect fairly light trades through midweek, supporting some land/sea breeze influence on showers wherever the background flow is too weak to promote a more typical windward focus. A lingering band of moisture over the northwestern islands early this week will depart soon, leading to a brief drier trend before another front likely approaches or reaches the northwestern islands late this week. Today's guidance has returned to better agreement for this front/moisture axis by way of the GFS/GEFS mean trending back to the south toward the ECMWF/ECMWF mean (and consensus from two days ago). This moisture axis and potential for some rainfall enhancement over northwestern locations should persist into the weekend. Meanwhile high pressure to the north of the front may help trades to rebound briefly late in the week. From the weekend into early next week the guidance is consistent with the general idea of significant trough amplification (with embedded upper low) north and west of the state, pushing a front to a position northwest of the main islands. Leading flow across the state should turn more southerly with while moisture/rainfall should increase. However there is a decent amount of northeast-southwest spread for where the core of the upper trough and associated low pressure will be, leading to differences in the exact surface pattern and eventual moisture focus early next week. The 18Z/00Z GFS runs are on the west/southwest side of the envelope by next Monday, leading to the most pronounced northward surge of moisture being focused over the northwestern islands. The 00Z GEFS mean is closer to the average of remaining guidance but still hints at a western moisture axis. On the other hand the 00Z ECMWF/12Z ECens mean suggest that lower latitude moisture should come into the Big Island and central part of the state. Given typical spread and forecast errors that far out in time, while accounting for the more extreme aspects of the GFS, would prefer a compromise approach among the 00Z GEFS mean/ECMWF and 12Z ECMWF mean. Rausch