Hawaii Extended Forecast Discussion NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD 257 AM EST Wed Nov 22 2023 Valid 00Z Thu Nov 23 2023 - 00Z Thu Nov 30 2023 An area of enhanced moisture will drift across the state under moderate trades during Wednesday-Thursday, with some enhanced rainfall possible over favored windward/mountain terrain. Precipitable water values should decrease by late in the week, while trades trend somewhat lighter and a little more southeasterly as a front approaches from the northwest. Latest guidance has persisted with the idea that the upper trough supporting the front will split just west of the main islands during the weekend, with an upper low dropping to the south and the rest of the trough passing by to the north of the state. However there is still notable spread for exact amplitude of the northern trough, affecting how far south/southeast the front reaches by early next week. This 00Z cycle features the GEFS mean as the amplified extreme aloft and the 00Z ECMWF having the least amplitude (the latter a notable adjustment from the 12Z run that was somewhat more amplified aloft and pushed the front farther south). Given the range of solutions and shuffling of the models over the past 12-24 hours--including the GFS not being as far south with the front as 24 hours ago--current preference would be for a compromise frontal position into next week. Then by next Tuesday-Wednesday the guidance maintains its recent idea of fairly rapid amplification/sharpening of another upper trough just west of the main islands with surface troughing possibly setting up near or west of the northwestern islands. This pattern would raise the potential for a significant increase in moisture and rainfall. Among current guidance, the 00Z GFS offers the least confident solution as by next Wednesday it becomes very extreme with the southwestward path of its upper low, becoming an outlier versus all 00Z GEFS/CMCens and 12Z ECens members at some height values. The 18Z GFS leaned to this idea too but at least its overall pattern was closer to the average of other guidance and would be preferable to the 00Z run. Otherwise, the 00Z ECMWF/CMC and the ensemble means ultimately cluster decently aloft for a day 7 forecast while the ECMWF/CMC develop more pronounced inverted surface troughing/low pressure just west of the main islands. Ultimately prefer an average of ideas from the non-GFS models/means to represent the majority evolution and account for the typically lower predictability of details a week out in time. This would produce a wetter pattern than forecast by the 00Z GFS. Rausch