Hawaii Extended Forecast Discussion NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD 358 AM EDT Mon Sep 30 2024 Valid 00Z Tue Oct 01 2024 - 00Z Tue Oct 08 2024 Latest models and ensembles continue to show a persistent trade pattern with mostly light windward/mountain-focused showers as precipitable water values fluctuate in the near to slightly below normal range. Consensus shows moderate trades through Thursday, followed by a period of lighter winds around Friday-Saturday as a front to the north weakens surface high pressure. Then expect trades to rebound somewhat Sunday-Monday as high pressure builds to the north once again. Guidance still shows upper ridging in place early-mid week and then a general trend toward cyclonic flow aloft but with a lot of uncertainty for where smaller-scale troughs/lows and ridges may exist from about Saturday onward. So far, these differences aloft do not seem to produce meaningful differences in rainfall forecasts in the guidance but certain locations/depth of features may still have some influence. Preference aloft remains with the ensemble means until better clustering emerges for the details. Rausch