Hawaii Extended Forecast Discussion NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD 259 AM EST Sat Dec 07 2024 Valid 00Z Sun Dec 08 2024 - 00Z Sun Dec 15 2024 The combination of an initial surface trough left over from a dissipated front, along with a front approaching from the northwest by Sunday (but likely not reaching the main islands) will tend to keep winds on the light to moderate side, with a combination of some background trades but also sea breeze influence. This pattern will support varied focus for showers through the weekend. Guidance is consistent in developing stronger trades next week as high pressure prevails to the north, still with the greatest wind speeds likely in the Wednesday-Thursday time frame. The trades will support greater windward/mountain shower focus. Today's dynamical guidance still shows shortwave energy aloft pulling southward to the east of the state early next week and then closing off an upper low that retrogrades south of the state through mid-late week, but with a modest southward adjustment that is enough to reduce precipitable water increases near the Big Island versus what guidance was showing 24 hours ago. However latest ECens means still bring somewhat more moisture to the area versus the GFS/GEFS mean and for a longer duration than in the 00Z ECMWF. 00Z machine learning models show some interesting changes from yesterday, as they generally delay the closed low formation and retrogression compared to the dynamical guidance. This scenario ends up leading to some increase of rainfall over the eastern islands toward late Friday or Saturday. An average of latest dynamical models/means provides a reasonable starting point for a deterministic forecast but with an eye toward any possible trending in future runs. Rausch