Quantitative Precipitation Forecast Discussion NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD 255 PM EDT Wed May 02 2018 Prelim Day 1 QPF Discussion Valid May 03/0000 UTC thru May 04/0000 UTC Reference AWIPS Graphics under...Precip Accum - 24hr Day 1... ...Central Plains into the Mid Mississippi Valley and Upper Midwest... Complex convective evolution today lends a below average confidence on placement of Slight risk areas and QPF forecast. Still believe the highest flash flood threat today/tonight will be from central KS into far southeast NE, southwestern IA, and western MO. Convection will continue to break out along the stalled out front by early this afternoon. Storm motions should initially be parallel to the front, allowing for some flash flood potential to develop along the boundary from central KS into far southeast NE, northwest MO and southwest IA. Appears likely that outflow on the southern periphery of this convection will align west to east, and with increasing 850 mb moisture transport into this boundary, appears to be a good setup for a period of west to east training convection tonight. Think the highest flash flood potential during the day 1 period will indeed be with this overnight training activity. Quite a bit of model spread noted amongst the 12z high res guidance. In general prefer the ARW cores during events such as today...thus will stick with mentioning only the HRW ARW, ARW2 and the Experimental HRRR. Both the 12z ARW and ARW2 move convection rather quickly off the front, which ends up resulting in a further south maximum QPF axis from central KS into southern MO and northern AR. Meanwhile the 12z Experimental HRRR keeps convection along the boundary longer, before eventually propagating it off to the east...resulting in a further north axis from central KS into central MO. Confidence is not high, but want to lean more towards the Experimental HRRR output, as it seems to be typical for the initial convection to train along the boundary a bit longer before propagating eastward in these stronger flow/forcing cases. Did lean WPC QPF towards the Experimental HRRR, although did incorporate some of the 12z HREF as well. The uncertainty continues downstream into portions of IL/IN/WI. Both the ARW and ARW2 show some pretty impressive totals across portions of central IL/IN, as multiple rounds of convection move across this area. The evolution depicted by these solutions would likely produce some flash flood threat and would warrant a Slight risk. However, noted that the 12z Experimental HRRR was much less aggressive, and depicted a further north axis, closer to the frontal boundary. This appears to be partially related to the convection forming over the central Plains, which as mentioned above we were leaning towards the Experimental HRRR. However, it is possible that convection forming this afternoon over IA becomes surface based, and lays out a boundary further south for the later activity to track across. Thus, certainly possible that the Experimental HRRR (which is weaker with this earlier convection) is too far north over the IL/IN region. With that said, still preferred something a bit further north and closer to the Experimental HRRR for the new WPC QPF. Confidence is low though, and will need to closely monitor convective evolution through the day. Convection will again expand in coverage Thursday afternoon over portions of IA/MO and vicinity. Again some disagreement was noted by this time. Given the longer lead time and synoptic nature of the system by this time...did incorporate more of the global guidance (GFS,ECWMF,UKMET) into this portion of the forecast. Did blend in some of the 12z ARW and Experimental HRRR as well, as they generally seemed in pretty close agreement to the global consensus, and added in some more convective detail. ...Northeast CO into southeast WY and western NE... Opted to add in a Marginal risk from northeast CO into southeast WY and western NE. The approach of the closed mid/upper level low will result in increased synoptic ascent over this area into tonight. Instability will be limited, but continued cooling aloft should be able to support some embedded heavier convective cores. Will be a long duration of showers and these heavier embedded cores, with repeat and slow moving cells a concern. Given the good high res agreement for isolated amounts approaching 2.5" over this area, think an isolated flash flood risk could develop. ...Central TX... Convection will break out this afternoon and evening along the dry line in south central TX..spreading northeast with time into central TX. Generally followed a blend of the 12z HREF members and recent HRRR runs for QPF here. In general convection should be progressive in nature, keeping the flash flood threat low. However still could be some briefly intense rates which could cause issues in any more susceptible areas. Something to watch will be whether any storms get anchored to the dry line over south central TX...which is suggested by the HRW ARW and ARW2. If this were to occur then a greater flash flood risk could develop, so something to monitor. Chenard