Alaska Extended Forecast Discussion NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD 317 PM EDT Sun Sep 30 2018 Valid 12Z Thu Oct 04 2018 - 12Z Mon Oct 08 2018 Typhoon Trami is in the process of becoming extratropical near Japan, with deepening expected to occur during the short range period as the system heads into the Bering Sea. Most guidance suggests that this system should achieve its lowest central pressure around Tue-Wed, before the extended forecast starts early Thu. During the extended period Thu-Mon there is reasonable agreement that the low should slowly weaken and perform some variation of a cyclonic loop over the Bering, potentially reaching near the western Aleutians by the weekend. Likewise consensus suggests a westward wobble for the corresponding upper low during the first half of the period. Early in the period the 12Z GFS has adjusted eastward close to the 00Z ECMWF, favoring a compromise of those two solutions as the best way to depict the system's detail without the manual intervention required to refine a more expansive multi-model blend. To the southeast of the Bering low, models/means still signal potential for evolution of a northern Pacific into Bering system around days 5-6 Fri-Sat but with continuing differences in detail. A model/ensemble mean with the similar 12Z GFS/00Z ECMWF as the operational model input yields only modest adjustment from continuity--favoring a weakly defined and progressive system though still with fairly low pressure in absolute terms. From the weekend into early next week the latest/recent guidance continues to show that energy within the southwest side of the overall Bering/North Pacific upper trough will amplify but opinions differ regarding how far southward this energy will pull the core of the overall trough. Thus far GEFS/ECMWF ensemble means along with the ECMWF maintain the trough core over the Bering while GFS runs (both operational and FV3) show greater amplification into the Pacific. Prefer the majority scenario as depicted by the ensemble means/ECMWF at this time. Over the eastern Pacific the ensemble means have trended stronger over the past day for the upper ridge expected to build late this week into the weekend. A significant aspect of the forecast that will have to be monitored toward days 7-8 Sun-Mon will be the potential for central Pacific tropical cyclone Walaka and its moisture to be pulled northeastward by flow between the upper ridge and central Pacific troughing. Only in the past day have models started to converge in loose principle while significant timing and track differences remain among operational model runs. Ensemble members are sufficiently diverse that the resulting means lose definition after days 5-6 Fri-Sat. A compromise between the 06Z GFS/00Z ECMWF is close to the 1500 UTC advisory from the CPHC into late week, and then by the end of the period it seems reasonable to lean more toward the farther left ECMWF track given strength of the eastern Pacific upper ridge. The 12Z GFS is faster but plausibly even farther west. Typically high uncertainty in days 7-8 forecasts would favor a more conservative depiction than the literal 00Z ECMWF. Both the models and means have made noticeable trends toward farther southeastward progression of the Arctic ridge/closed high as it weakens during the latter half of the period. The means are not quite as pronounced with this adjustment versus some operational runs like the 12Z GFS/00Z CMC and seem to be a reasonable starting point to represent this developing trend while awaiting further confirmation from future runs. Based on the considerations for individual features, today's forecast starts with an even blend of the 12Z GFS/00Z ECMWF early in the period and then incorporates increasing ensemble mean input--more 00Z ECMWF mean than 06Z GEFS due to generally better definition in the former. The forecast holds onto some 00Z ECMWF weight through the end of the period while phasing out the 12Z GFS after Sat. The best signal for highest 5-day rainfall totals continues to be along the southern coast and Panhandle, due in part to a couple triple point waves that may track just offshore. Specifics are very uncertain by Sun-Mon given the guidance spread for Walaka's moisture, with solutions ranging from dry to very wet. Mass field preferences would lead to precipitation in the wetter half of the full envelope. Rausch WPC medium range Alaskan products including 500mb, surface fronts/pressures progs and sensible weather grids can be found at: http://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/alaska/ak_5dayfcst500_wbg.gif http://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/alaska/akmedr.shtml http://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/alaska/ak_5km_gridsbody.html