Alaska Extended Forecast Discussion NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD 320 PM EDT Sat Nov 03 2018 Valid 12Z Wed Nov 07 2018 - 12Z Sun Nov 11 2018 Given the spread and run-run changes seen among the guidance yesterday, it is not surprising that today's consensus offers significant adjustments for some aspects of the forecast while major spread persists for other aspects. There is still good enough clustering among latest operational models to recommend a compromise among the 00Z GFS/FV3 GFS/ECMWF/CMC for the early part of the forecast Wed-Thu. Then by the latter half of the period, the models and ensemble means loosely form two separate clusters--leading to a preference that trends toward incorporating 20 percent total ensemble mean input (06Z GEFS/00Z ECMWF mean) for day 6 Fri and 60 percent for days 7-8 Sat-Sun. Over the Bering Sea recent guidance has trended strongly toward the idea that leading energy flowing into the region should ultimately wrap up a fairly strong storm system mid-late week. This is in contrast to earlier solutions that were all over the place for what the leading energy would produce in the way of a surface reflection while showing more of a signal toward a northwestern/northern Bering storm toward Fri-Sat. While there is decent agreement upon this mid-late week storm there is still a fair amount of latitude spread for track, with the 06Z GFS straying to the southern side of the spread by day 6 Fri while the 00Z CMC mean is extremely far north. The 00Z GFS/FV3 GFS/ECMWF/CMC provided the best combination of detail and track in light of the ECMWF mean still being a bit farther north than operational runs. Trailing energy which guidance had used to develop the previously forecast northern Bering system now appears more likely to flow around the southwestern periphery of the leading system's overall circulation. There may well be a defined wave associated with this energy for some period of time but there is currently too much spread to depict very strongly in the forecast. During the latter half of the period the operational models and ensemble means sort themselves into two primary clusters with respect to the amplitude/sharpness of the trough-ridge pattern dominating much of the forecast domain from near 170W to western Canada. Specifically the models show a deeper/sharper upper pattern that ultimately supports the progression of a deepening southern mid-latitude wave and moisture which ultimately reach the Gulf of Alaska next weekend. The broader and less amplified ridge-trough configuration in the means would result in less mid-latitude interaction. The 06Z GEFS mean has a hint of the operational scenario though. The sharpening trend aloft versus yesterday is quite apparent in the means by day 8 Sun so it seems reasonable to use a model/mean compromise as the best single starting point. Regarding somewhat less contentious parts of the forecast... Trends over the past couple days have favored the northern half of the spread for the system tracking into the Gulf of Alaska. The 06Z/12Z GFS runs have gone counter to this trend with a track somewhat south of the 00Z GFS and other operational models as well as the means. The 00Z ECMWF is a bit on the northwestern side of the guidance envelope but certainly worth including as part of the forecast given the trends. Meanwhile short range northern Bering/eastern Siberia low pressure has trended faster/farther northward compared to yesterday's dominant guidance cluster as it tracks into the Arctic. The combination of mid-late week system and possible late period system(s)/leading moist flow yields a signal for highest 5-day precipitation totals extending from near the Kenai Peninsula and Alaska Panhandle. Locations near the Aleutians may see a period of strong winds depending on the exact track of the system forecast to track across the Bering Sea during the latter half of the week. Rausch WPC medium range Alaskan products including 500mb, surface fronts/pressures progs and sensible weather grids can be found at: http://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/alaska/ak_5dayfcst500_wbg.gif http://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/alaska/akmedr.shtml http://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/alaska/ak_5km_gridsbody.html