Extended Forecast Discussion NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD 135 AM EDT Thu Nov 01 2018 Valid 12Z Sun Nov 04 2018 - 12Z Thu Nov 08 2018 ...Pattern Overview... A mean upper-level trough is expected to persist across the central U.S. through the extended period. The trough will be reinforced by a series of shortwaves originating in the north Pacific (north of a persistent upper-level ridge), potentially interacting with additional shortwave energy of polar/arctic origin as they cross the Canadian Rockies before amplifying as they encounter the area of broad and persistent cyclonic flow across the central U.S. A series of frontal/low pressure systems will accompany these shortwaves across the CONUS, generally 1-2 days apart, resulting in a period of relatively active weather. ...Guidance/Predictability Assessment... A solution close to the consensus of the ECENS and GEFS means was preferred with the low pressure system crossing the Mid-Mississippi Valley/Upper Midwest during days 3-4 (Sun-Mon). The ECMWF was the closest deterministic solution to the ensemble consensus with the track/timing of the surface low, followed by the GFS. Thus, a ECMWF/GFS (more weight toward the ECMWF) blend served as a starting point for the WPC forecast during that time frame. By Mon the next shortwave should be exiting the Rockies into the Plains, with development of yet another surface low pressure system expected. Spread among the deterministic guidance seems to have increased rather substantially with this second system by day 5 (Tue) and onward. The last few runs of the GFS have deviated from the ensemble consensus and quickly move the surface low northward into Canada, with another frontal wave developing farther south along the front. The ECENS mean and even the GEFS/NAEFS means continue to look much more like the ECMWF, which remains reasonably well centered within the ensemble spread. Thus, something along the lines of the means and the ECMWF remains the preferred solution, which also keeps reasonably good continuity with the previous forecast. This scenario shows a strengthening surface low moving north-northeastward across the Great Lakes on Tue and continuing to deepen (perhaps quite substantially) as the low moves into eastern Ontario toward James Bay on day 6 (Wed). Through late in the forecast period, the same general pattern looks to hold strong, with additional shortwaves continuing to reinforce the mean trough (although the details of these systems are quite murky). Given the increased spread especially after day 5, weighting was shifted toward the ensemble means during the day 6-7 time period, with a bit of continued emphasis on the ECMWF through day 6. ...Weather Highlights/Threats... The Mississippi and Ohio Valleys will see the potential for rain to become more widespread late in the weekend into next week as a couple frontal systems traverse the region and tap into Gulf of Mexico moisture. An expanding areas of rain will spread northeastward ahead of the midweek system (Tue-Wed) with an inch or more of rain possible over a large area, particularly over the Ohio/Tennessee Valleys northward to the Lower Great Lakes. Off the coast, the lingering stationary front may push back toward the coast and bring the potential for precipitation back to the Northeast. Heavy rain and higher elevation snow will be possible across the Pacific Northwest into early next week as upper shortwaves/surface fronts traverse the northern periphery of the upper ridge. These features will also bring rounds of snow to the higher elevations of the northern and then central Rockies early next week. Chilly conditions will be prevalent across portions of the central U.S. beneath the persistent upper trough, where highs will generally be 5 to 10 deg F below average. Chilly air may make its way into the eastern U.S. by later next week behind a strong cold front. Meanwhile, above average temperatures will persist across portions of the West, from California into the Great Basin (especially Sun-Tue), where high temperatures may reach 5 to 15 deg F above average downstream of persistent upper-level ridging. Ryan WPC medium range 500 mb heights, surface systems, weather grids, quantitative precipitation, winter weather outlook probabilities and heat indexes are found at: https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/medr/5dayfcst500_wbg.gif https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/medr/5dayfcst_wbg_conus.gif https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/5km_grids/5km_gridsbody.html https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/day4-7.shtml https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/wwd/pwpf_d47/pwpf_medr.php?day=4 https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/heat_index.shtml