Hawaii Extended Forecast Discussion NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD 821 AM EDT Sat Jul 05 2014 Valid 00Z Sun Jul 06 2014 - 00Z Sun Jul 13 2014 Through day 4...the 5/00z ECMWF-GFS and their respective ensemble packages maintained good continuity and did not disappoint with respect to the overall spread of the subtropical high pressure ridge and a dominant surface cell invof 41N 145W at 9/12Z. Since both deterministic runs continue to project an impressive post-frontal strengthening of the surface high invof 41N-42N and mid-140s W, both could be used without regret with respect to timing the resurgence of fresh trades across the Islands on and/or by Wednesday. In the day 5-7 period however, the 5/00Z forecast cycle yielded much more uncertainty versus continuity across the northern Pacific. In particular, the structure of the subtropical ridge axis and its orientation over the mid-latitude Pacific by 11/00Z. Much if not all of the challenge is with energy transfer(s) across the mid-latitude Pacific and related to the replacement of an exiting upper-level trough in the southeastern gulf of Alaska with 'new' energy emerging in the southern Bering Sea and central Aleutians. A secondary---but not necessarily a less important difference---lies across the tropical Pacific on either end of the mid-level Subtropical Ridge. In short, the Canadian and GEFS ensembles appear much sharper along 130W beyond day 5 versus the ECENS. However, the ECENS looks to be too amplified along/west of the Dateline. Recommend an equal blend of the 5/00z NAEFS-ECENS to account for the broad spread on the 'periphery' of the Subtropical Ridge and anticipate a persistence approach beyond day 5 with the tradewind circulation until the subtle features---at the surface and aloft---are better resolved. Vojtesak