Hawaii Extended Forecast Discussion NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD 828 AM EDT Sun Jul 06 2014 Valid 00Z Mon Jul 07 2014 - 00Z Mon Jul 14 2014 The 6/00Z forecast cycle did not disappoint with respect to the overall spread of the subtropical high pressure ridge and a dominant surface cell invof 41N 142W between day 3 (9/12Z) and early day 5 (HST--11/12Z). Since both deterministic runs continue to project an impressive post-frontal strengthening of the surface high invof 41N-42N and mid-140s W, both could be used without regret with respect to timing the resurgence of fresh trades across the Islands on/by Wednesday. BUT... Chaos 'reigns supreme' across the far northeast Pacific after day 5. And to a lesser extent, large spread continues along the ITCZ and easterly wave energy embedded within it (along 15N). The 6/00z ECMWF-GFS-Canadian deterministic runs and their ensembles paint completely different pictures in the Gulf of Alaska and mid-latitude Pacific. For the medium range Hawai'i forecast and sensible weather outlook, the pattern is not that complicated. But using a deterministic approach with respect to the expanse of the Subtropical Ridge along 35N from the Mainland to 160 E longitude looked risky. In this day 5-7 forecast period, the outcome in the Gulf of Alaska and amplitude of the flow becomes more-and-more an exaggerated solution if the deterministic ECMWF is followed verbatim (for the surface pattern). Its surface ridge breakdown looked premature (on day 6); with emphasis on a deep surface cyclone and discernible surface front extending southward along 150W to ~35N. On the flip side, the deterministic GFS and Canadian maintain a flat but substantial ridge axis along 35N with a definitive frontal wave and PROGRESSIVE surface trough originating along 150W but not extending equatorward of 40N until reaching 130W-135W. Therefore, appreciable forecast challenges remain linked to energy transfer across the mid-latitude Pacific and related to the replacement of an exiting upper-level trough in the southeastern gulf of Alaska with 'new' energy emerging in the southern Bering Sea and central Aleutians. The secondary forecast challenge lies across the tropical Pacific on either end of the mid-level Subtropical Ridge. Along the western fringes of the Subtropical Ridge, the Canadian, GFS and ECMWF have generally different viewpoints with how/when to inject tropical energy into the mid-latitude westerlies off the coast of Japan. And along the eastern end of the Ridge, residual vorticity from 'Douglas' and a compact disturbance moving westward between 10N and 15N generate considerable spread. For today, recommend an equally-weighted blend of the 6/00z NAEFS-ECENS and GEFS to account for the spread after day 5. Vojtesak