Hawaii Extended Forecast Discussion NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD 811 AM EDT Tue Aug 26 2014 Valid 00Z Wed Aug 27 2014 - 00Z Wed Sep 03 2014 Aloft, 26/00Z ECENS/GEFS cycle and their deterministic runs remained in very good agreement concerning the movements of a broad upper-level ridge in the north central and eastern Pacific heading into day 6 (1/12Z). At the surface, the 26/00Z GFS MOS data (extended version) indicated a slackening of the current trade wind intensity for a slightly longer period of time (Friday through Sunday) versus the ECMWF solution. After day 6, the 26/00z GEFS/ECENS part ways at 500 millibars along the Dateline---with the deterministic ECMWF containing a flatter flow over the mid-latitude Pacific and stronger Subtropical Ridge solution vs the GFS and its cutoff 500mb low solution. The GFS carries a well-defined low invof 39N 175W (@ 2/12Z) and a weaker downstream Subtropical Ridge axis between California and Hawai'i. In turn, these differences translate to widening model/ensemble spread with respect to latitude--and where tropical moisture associated with 'Marie' and the remnants of 'Lowell' is displaced across the southeast Pacific. Both runs displace the moisture and vorticity along a westward path but do not agree with the latitude. The GFS suggests the moisture and vorticity reach 30N 150W while the ECMWF suggests more organization of the moisture westward to ~ 25N 155W. Recommend a blend of the GFS/ECMWF deterministic runs and their means through day 5, then reverting to the means and a straight GEFS/ECENS blend for day 6-7 to mitigate the changes emerging along the Dateline--and to dampen the sensible weather impacts of any 'tropicals'--ie 'Marie' and 'Lowell'. Vojtesak