Hawaii Extended Forecast Discussion NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD 804 AM EDT Mon Sep 15 2014 Valid 00Z Tue Sep 16 2014 - 00Z Tue Sep 23 2014 The 15/00Z GEFS/ECENS ensemble means were very representative of the flow pattern across the Pacific Ocean through day 5 (20/12Z)---before differences 'crop up' along the western tip of the Aleutians and downstream in the Gulf of Alaska. The forecast for the central Pacific remains essentially unchanged---with the western portion of the Subtropical Ridge rebuilding and migrating eastward to a position near 35N 160W by Wednesday (17/12Z). The ridge then flattens---migrating east-southeastward to approximately 33N 142W heading into Friday (19/12Z). The 'flatter' Subtropical Ridge axis solution in the central Pacific along 30N-35N latitude results in a brief return of the more typical 'Northeast Trades' from Wednesday 'til the Friday/Saturday time frame. The low-level flow pattern then begins to gain amplitude---the result of mid-latitude energy from the southern Bering Sea transferring downstream to the Gulf of Alaska and the presence of another 'energized' Aleutian Low in the Gulf of Alaska. The biggest differences---in the 15/00Z means and deterministic runs---were tied to a re-positioning (a latitude and longitude issue) of the broad cyclonic gyre in the northeast Pacific. The consequence of this will be to the detriment of the Subtropical Ridge. Recommend a 50/50 blend of the 15/00Z ECENS-GEFS after day 4 (Friday) to handle the changes over the mid-latitude Pacific and character of the Subtropical Ridge axis. For Hawai'i, trades should be on the increase around Wednesday with the positioning of the Subtropical Ridge axis northeast of the Islands to give the ITCZ and cloud debris embedded within it a chance to spread northward and northwestward over the Islands---primarily between day 2 and day 4. Vojtesak