Hawaii Extended Forecast Discussion NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD 823 AM EDT Mon Oct 05 2015 Valid 00Z Tue Oct 06 2015 - 00Z Tue Oct 13 2015 Please refer to the Central Pacific Hurricane Center (CPHC) concerning "Oho" and it's impacts on Hawai'i. Medium Range thoughts--- Would suggest a 70/30 blend of the 5/00Z ECENS/GEFS means---between day 3-7. This will maintain a smooth forecast across the mid-latitude Pacific, Gulf of Alaska and downstream across the North American continent. By day 5, the ECENS begins to carve another mid-level trough out of the deep vortex in the Gulf of Alaska --- and along 160W while the GEFS starts to flatten the flow---but maintains a west southwesterly steering flow along 40N. At this time frame, both are reasonable conclusions west of the Dateline. The deep low should anchor in the Gulf of Alaska and await the outcome of "Choi-wan's" entrainment across the mid-latitude west Pac flow pattern (invof ne Japan). The 5/00Z deterministic GFS/ECMWF continues its struggle---beyond the day 3 time frame---with the moisture/energy transfers between Tropics and mid latitudes. With the deterministic ECMWF a much faster solution than the GFS---hard to recommend the extreme ECMWF solution downstream in the Gulf of Alaska and Panhandle by day 4. There is too much (separation) with respect to latitude...and too little connectivity anticipated along 30N 145W to consider the deterministic ECMWF versus its ECENS mean. Vojtesak