Hawaii Extended Forecast Discussion NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD 717 AM EDT Thu Jun 23 2016 Valid 00Z Fri Jun 24 2016 - 00Z Fri Jul 01 2016 The Subtropical Ridge covering the majority of the eastern Pacific will reach its weakest point along 150W --- in the 26/12Z-27/00Z time frame --- per the (23/00Z cycle) deterministic GFS/ECMWF. This should dampen the intensity of the Trades over the weekend. The reason---a vertically-stacked low in the Gulf of Alaska and its associated surface trough are expected across the northeast Pacific. The low is expected to weaken and fill --- with the 23/00Z GFS/ECMWF both in good agreement. However, the 23/00Z ECMWF threw a new wrinkle into the forecast the middle of next week by allowing secondary shortwave energy originating east of Kamchatka to reinforce the trough invof 150W-155W by day 5. The 23/00Z GFS is significantly slower (a full day to 1 1/2 days slower) with this feature --- which allows the Subtropical Ridge to slowly rebuild north of Hawai'i next Tuesday and Wednesday (days 5 and 6). The 23/00Z ECENS/GEFS means actually support the ECMWF here. Using a 50/50 blend of these means on/after 29/00Z (mid-point day5) may be the better way to go. That is --- until the mid-latitude north Pacific settles down with the solutions regarding this secondary shortwave energy transfer from the southern Bering Sea to the Gulf of Alaska. The 22/00Z cycle guidance (yesterday's solutions) found more of a middle ground with this secondary shortwave. But as the 23/00Z cycle illustrates --- the details of the shortwave's influence downstream are yet-to-be determined and do have a temporary but subtle impact on the Subtropical Pacific. Vojtesak