Hawaii Extended Forecast Discussion NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD 728 AM EST Thu Feb 07 2019 Valid 00Z Fri Feb 08 2019 - 00Z Fri Feb 15 2019 Recent clustering and reasonable stability of guidance are providing increased confidence in the forecast of unusually deep and southward low pressure that may bring a period of strong/damaging winds and high waves to the state during the weekend into the start of next week. Today and tomorrow an initial upper shortwave crossing the region will support an area of low pressure to the north-northeast of the main islands. A trailing cold front will pass through and usher in brisk northerly winds and drier air, with an axis of lowest precipitable water values (1-2 standard deviations below climatology) passing through from northwest to southeast on Saturday. Models/ensembles continue to show a dramatic amplification of central Pacific energy leading to a closed low forming just north of 30N latitude by early Saturday and then drifting southward to around 25N by early Monday. At the low's most extreme combination of depth and southward extent, latest GFS/ECMWF runs and their ensemble means suggest that 500mb/850mb heights could reach as low as 4-6 standard deviations below normal. In response to this upper low there is good consensus among the guidance that the surface low north of the state will deepen and loop back to the south, possibly getting as close to the islands as 24N latitude around Sunday/early Monday. By this time frame the most prominent guidance difference involves the 00Z ECMWF whose low track strays somewhat west of other models and ensemble means (including the ECMWF mean). Note that its solution is not extreme enough to be an outlier though. The old 12Z/06 ECMWF is more representative of majority clustering. Guidance continues to show the threat for strong northerly/northwesterly winds and high waves on the western side of this system, with one or more areas of rainfall also embedded within the fast flow. After early Monday guidance generally shows the upper low opening up while the upper trough persists but becomes gradually weaker with time. As has been the case in recent days for the 5-7 day portion of the forecast, the 00Z GEFS/ECMWF means provide a good intermediate starting point--keeping an upper low in place to the north longer than the GFS/CMC runs but not quite as far west as the aforementioned questionable 00Z ECMWF. With minor differences the 00Z CMC mean generally supports the other means. There is still a lot of uncertainty among models/members for specifics of energy flowing around the mid-latitude upper high, with this energy possibly having some influence on the upper low of interest after Monday. Based on the ensemble mean scenario, expect some degree of elongated surface low pressure to persist just north/northeast of the state through midweek and possibly sag southward over the area into Thursday, maintaining some degree of unsettled weather. Again confidence in any specific scenario surface/aloft (along with associated sensible weather effects) becomes fairly low especially by Wednesday-Thursday. Rausch