Hawaii Extended Forecast Discussion NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD 813 AM EDT Sun Sep 15 2019 Valid 00Z Mon Sep 16 2019 - 00Z Mon Sep 23 2019 Through about Thursday guidance shows a drier period with primarily windward focus for any showers that occur. Expect trades to strengthen somewhat as an upper low initially north-northwest of the main islands moves away and low pressure possibly develops west of 165W longitude. Meanwhile an upper ridge will move toward and across the region from east to west. Models and ensembles continue to disagree over details of the Friday-Sunday period. The one common theme is a trend toward wetter conditions but with differences aloft leading to various moisture sources and rainfall intensity. ECMWF-based guidance continues to be fastest with energy aloft moving northeast to southwest, reaching west of the state after early Saturday and resulting in earlier establishment of moist flow from the south and noticeably heavier rainfall. In fact the 00Z ECMWF even brings a surface low to the eastern islands by early Sunday. The 00Z CMC's details aloft differ but its upper pattern ends up being fairly similar to the ECMWF/ECMWF mean by Sunday. ECMWF mean runs are somewhat less aggressive with the precipitable water increase than recent operational runs though. Slower GFS/GEFS timing with the upper energy would initially lead to an area of moisture reaching the area from the north/northeast and it would take until Sunday for moisture to start moving in from the southeast. With no clear trends in either cluster from yesterday, and the ECMWF mean thus far being somewhat subdued compared to the operational runs, preference would be for a compromise between the GFS/GEFS cluster and the ECMWF mean. Rausch