Hawaii Extended Forecast Discussion NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD 827 AM EDT Tue Oct 07 2014 Valid 00Z Wed Oct 08 2014 - 00Z Wed Oct 15 2014 The ECENS/GEFS from 7/00z were in average agreement through the weekend with the overall flow pattern across the northern Pacific, and more importantly---the Subtropics. The entrainment of western Pacific tropical moisture and dynamics seems to be where the bigger differences 'crop up' around the 12/12z time frame. Likewise, the 7/00Z ECENS/GEFS were in average agreement with a closed mid-level disturbance migrating southwestward---from the east central Pacific towards Hawai'i. Much of the 00Z deterministic guidance (ECMWF-GFS-Canadian) carry enough 500mb vorticity between 13/00Z and 14/12Z invof the forecast area to warrant---at this point---a mention for the day 6-7 time frame. A blend of the 7/00Z ECENS and GEFS would cover the mass field forecasts for depth and forward (westward) motion of the mid-level feature--but minimize the reflection of the feature at the surface. Vojtesak