Hawaii Extended Forecast Discussion NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD 718 AM EST Wed Jan 28 2015 Valid 00Z Thu Jan 29 2015 - 00Z Thu Feb 05 2015 The 28/00Z ECENS/GEFS and their deterministic runs were "in-line" with the current Hawai'i forecasts into the day 5 period (3/00Z). An upper-level low and associated 500mb-700mb layered trough axis expected invof 160W---will likely develop a surface reflection and low-level wave along 30N latitude. The deterministic and ensemble mean solutions do vary considerably at this time frame---with respect to the overall structure and migration of the parent upper-level circulation (invof 164W). Enough so, to recommend a blend of the GEFS/ECENS at/around 3/00Z and beyond. This recommendation would not alter the progression of a notable surface front across the Islands---in the Tuesday/Wednesday time frame (day 6-7). Rather, it will broad-brush the lat/long placement of one or more surface waves---which could be developing along the surface front between 140W-160W. The 28/00z ECMWF deterministic solution would be the more aggressive solution in the Subtropics during this time frame. Worth watching out for---but not worth wholesale changes at this point in time. Vojtesak