Hawaii Extended Forecast Discussion NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD 729 AM EST Sat Jan 31 2015 Valid 00Z Sun Feb 01 2015 - 00Z Sun Feb 08 2015 The 31/00Z ECENS/GEFS means and deterministic runs have not wavered on their depiction of the synoptic-scale pattern through f84 (3/12Z)---and the emergence of a deepening surface cyclone invof ~30N 155W (a sub 996mb sfc low). Medium Range Assessment/Uncertainty... Fundamentally,the ECENS/GEFS differ significantly after 5/12Z (mid-point day 5) as the day 3---30N 155W surface cyclone intensifies and migrates downwind of the upper-level trough. the fundamental difference is---erosion and breakdown of the downstream North American ridge. For reasons of semi-unknown origin...the 31/00Z GEFS/GFS deflects the deep cyclone (now a sub 968 mb low) by 5/12Z so far away from the Gulf of Alaska and the upper-level ridge---to rule out the entire package. Recommend settling on the more consistent ECENS and deterministic ECMWF (last three runs) during this 1-7day forecast cycle. Its suggestion that a rather broad and fast-moving 200mb westerly jet will become well-established across the western Pacific---and covering the 35N-40N latitudes to roughly 150W-160W. That flow should anchor a series of moderately-intense surface waves north and west of Hawai'i through the period. The sequencing and evolution---handled with better success. Vojtesak