Hawaii Extended Forecast Discussion NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD 728 AM EST Sat Dec 10 2016 Valid 00Z Sun Dec 11 2016 - 00Z Sun Dec 18 2016 Ensembles show that troughing to the north/northwest of the region will sustain a couple more days of showery conditions with some embedded heaver amounts. Southerly flow will veer to northwesterly as a cold front associated with the departing upper trough pushes into the region on Monday and early Tuesday. Blend of the recent GFS/ECMWF should suffice as timing differences remain (ensembles generally lag the deterministic by about 6-12 hrs). As that upper trough and sfc front pull away from Hawai'i, weak/brief ridging and drier conditions are forecast to overspread the area on Wednesday and early Thursday. Trades will stay disrupted as the flow becomes southeasterly then southerly and finally southwesterly next Friday/Saturday. Ensembles show strongly digging heights just west of 160W (a bit farther east than 24 hrs ago) and a strong likelihood of a closed low (potentially deep). This could set up another heavy rainfall pattern for the 50th state, though some differences in the GFS/ECMWF ensembles are evident -- the former were deeper/slower than the latter though the 00Z deterministic ECMWF was again slower than its ensemble mean and closer to the 00Z Canadian but not as deep or southwest as the GFS/GEFS mean. Preference lies with the 00Z GFS/GEFS mean as the ECMWF forecasts a rather extreme solution, but is not entirely unreasonable given the setup. These details have yet to be determined. Fracasso