Hawaii Extended Forecast Discussion NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD 812 AM EDT Fri Oct 13 2017 Valid 00Z Sat Oct 14 2017 - 00Z Sat Oct 21 2017 Latest guidance is consistent in showing a pronounced strengthening of trades as a surface trough initially over the western islands departs from the area. Surface high pressure expected to settle to the north of the state late Sunday into next week should begin to weaken somewhat toward next Friday. Trades will likely still be brisk at that time but with somewhat less windy conditions than early-mid week. Into the early part of this weekend, rain and potential thunderstorms may be locally heavy in association with a weakness aloft and a band of 1.50-2.00 inch precipitable water values passing over the state. Drier air will move in late weekend into next week, leading to a lighter trend for generally windward-focused rainfall. Toward Thursday-Friday there is still some disagreement over the potential evolution/path of some weak upper level energy with corresponding differences in the northward extent of lower latitude moisture. Among current guidance the 00z GFS/GEFS mean show the best defined upper level feature with more moisture reaching at least as far north as the Big Island. The 06z GFS made a significant adjustment in the 00z ECMWF direction, with a stronger upper ridge just to the north leading to a more suppressed/sheared weakness aloft and maintenance of precipitable water values at values below climatology. The full range of model/ensemble guidance suggests there is still room for some energy aloft/moisture return but that the most likely scenario is somewhat more than halfway toward the drier 06z GFS/00z ECMWF versus the 00z GFS/GEFS mean. Rausch