Hawaii Extended Forecast Discussion NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD 829 AM EDT Mon Oct 16 2017 Valid 00Z Tue Oct 17 2017 - 00Z Tue Oct 24 2017 Models and ensembles show generally good agreement on the large scale pattern across the central Pacific through the next week. Upper ridge initially northwest of Hawaii will move a bit east over the Islands as it gradually weakens. Meanwhile, an upper low well northeast of the state will also slowly weaken over the next week, having very little in the way of sensible weather impacts over Hawaii. Low-level east-northeasterly flow of 15-25 kt will persist across the Islands through most of the next week, as a surface high remains anchored north of the state. The pattern across the central Pacific should begin to change by late next weekend as most models and ensembles show a shortwave amplifying across the north central Pacific, which could push a cold front southward in the general direction of Hawaii. There is a fairly large degree of spread, however, as to the exact evolution of the trough, and whether a more full latitude trough amplifies north of Hawaii (as shown by the GFS as well as the GEFS/NAEFS/CMC ensembles) or whether a somewhat weaker wave moves east more quickly (as shown by the CMC). The 00z ECMWF was generally in the middle of these two extremes. Nonetheless, there should be some type of wave amplifying north of Hawaii by late in the weekend, which could push a front toward the Islands, but it remains unclear on how quickly the front will move south toward the Islands. Ryan