Hawaii Extended Forecast Discussion NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD 810 AM EDT Fri Oct 20 2017 Valid 00Z Sat Oct 21 2017 - 00Z Sat Oct 28 2017 ...Heavy rain threat for next week... Breezy trades will slowly subside over the next few days with generally light windward/mauka showers expected. Next week, a trough is forecast to dig along/past 165W north of 35N (Mon 12Z) and likely form a closed low near 30N/160W per the latest deterministic guidance, which cluster closely together through early Tuesday. Though there is now consensus on that even happening, there remains disagreement on how this upper low meanders for the rest of the week just north of the area. The GEFS members were closer to the GFS/ECMWF/Canadian which linger the upper low between 152-162W next Wed-Fri while the ECMWF ensemble members mostly allow it to lift northeastward. Strong deterministic consensus and likely strong downstream ridging suggest that the slower cluster of solutions may be more correct. As the upper low dives southward and lower level flow veers to southeasterly, an increase in moisture is expected over the region next week. Deep ITCZ moisture may get pulled northward ahead of the front, which may push through the whole island chain. Should the front actually make it east of the area, then the NW flow behind it should lessen the heavy rain threat. However, given the spread in the ensembles (including some members farther west than the 00Z GFS/Canadian), the moisture axis could remain over at least part of the Hawai'i later next week. Fracasso