Hawaii Extended Forecast Discussion NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD 725 AM EST Tue Nov 14 2017 Valid 00Z Wed Nov 15 2017 - 00Z Wed Nov 22 2017 For much of the forecast period, Hawai`i will be along the southwestern flank of a longwave trough which will continue to reload during the week. The pattern should remain rather consistent as a mean upper ridge remains a fixture in the forecast in the vicinity of the International Dateline. While models agree on the timing/position of the initial longwave trough, they differ with the details of the second system late in the work week. By Friday, ensemble spaghetti plots show it is essentially the 00Z ECMWF/ECMWF ensemble mean versus all other models. By Saturday morning, most of the 00Z ECMWF ensemble suite show a closed low to the north of the island chain while other solutions favor a more eastern scenario. The former camp would favor a retrograding upper low which is in stark contrast to other models. The ECMWF has shown consistency in such a forecast although the 00Z run is east of its preceding cycle. While the ensemble means do differ, it is not as extreme as the operational ECMWF. Would suggest an ensemble means based approach taking a split between the 06Z GEFS/00Z ECMWF ensemble means by as early as Friday as guidance quickly diverge. At the surface, a prominent ridge across the central Pacific will keep a rather tight pressure gradient in place. A weakening boundary to the south of the Hawai`ian islands will maintain a east-northeasterly flow regime. Forecast winds will be in the 20 to 25 knot range at times early on with a brief slackening possible before the next surface high builds to the north. By Thursday afternoon, some of the guidance show a 1044-mb ridge setting up south of the Aleutians which will gradually help intensify the local wind fields again. By Friday onward, model differences become challenging as the 00Z ECMWF would suggest a convergence zone associated with a front sweeping through the region. Thus, it could either be weakening east-northeasterly flow as depicted by most models or variable winds in response to the nearby surface boundary. Regarding precipitation, the general east-northeasterly winds will bring scattered showers through the island chain with an eventual decrease in coverage as precipitable water values drop by mid-week. If the ECMWF verifies, it could become quite wet late in the period as moisture increases ahead of the meandering upper low. However, other solutions would favor scattered showers, thus supporting the general dichotomy here. Rubin-Oster