Model Diagnostic Discussion NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD 226 PM EDT Mon Oct 21 2019 Valid Oct 21/1200 UTC thru Oct 25/0000 UTC ...See NOUS42 KWNO (ADMNFD) for the status of the upper air ingest... 12Z Model Evaluation with Preferences and Confidence ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Central U.S. cyclone; secondary low from Carolinas to New England Tue-Wed. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Preference: General model blend Confidence: Above average 1830z Update: No changes in preference with this system. The 12z ECMWF did indeed speed up a bit over New England and is now more in line with the other guidance. ...Original Discussion... The low over the upper MS valley will lift northward into Canada over the next couple days. Slight strengthening of the low will continue today, however by tonight the system will become stacked and fill in as it lifts northward. A secondary low will form over the Mid Atlantic Tuesday and lift northeastward into New England through Wednesday. Overall guidance is in good agreement with the evolution of this system. The 0z ECMWF is probably a tad slow with the front moving across New England Tuesday night into Wednesday, otherwise a general model blend should suffice for this system. Stronger shortwave dropping through Rockies into the southern Plains early to mid week ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Preference: Blend of the 12z ECMWF/ECMWF mean/CMC/UKMET Confidence: Slightly below average 1830z Update: The 12z non NCEP models have backed off a bit from their very deep/slow trough over the southern Rockies/Plains by 0z Friday...however they still remain much slower/deeper than the 12z NAM/GFS. The new 12z ECMWF/CMC are actually now more in line with the 0z ECMWF ensemble mean...although the spread in the ECMWF ensemble members is high. Overall think blending the 12z ECWMF/ECMWF mean/CMC/UKMET probably results in a good, most probable, forecast at this time. Of course given we are 3 days out and the spread remains high, some changes are likely over the coming days. But for now the aforementioned blend seems like the best option. The 12z GFS/NAM still seem too progressive, and while not impossible, remain a lower probability outcome. Given the lingering spread will leave the confidence at slightly below average. ...Original discussion... Models are in pretty good agreement though 12z Wed (23rd) with the shortwave energy dropping southward through the Canadian Rockies and into the northern Plains. Thereafter spread increases significantly. The non NCEP guidance (ECMWF/UKMET/CMC/EC MEAN) all show a stronger wave and a trough digging deeper to the southwest across the Rockies and Plains...eventually resulting in the development of a cutoff low. The 12z GFS and NAM show a weaker and more progressive system. The last several runs of the ECMWF have been very consistent with the deeper and slower trough...and with the other non NCEP models trending in this direction as well...it would appear this slower/deeper solution is becoming increasingly likely. Thus WPC will continue to prefer a non NCEP model blend for this system after 12z Wed. Confidence has increased some, but is still slightly below average given the spread...however if the new 12z non NCEP models remain consistent with their deeper/slower solutions, then confidence would increase towards average for this system. Model trends at www.wpc.noaa.gov/html/model2.html 500 mb forecasts at www.wpc.noaa.gov/h5pref/h5pref.shtml Chenard